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Re: re. suggestions (C R) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:19:43 GMT From: "mailreader@xxxxxxxx" <mailreader@xxxxxxxx> To: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: re. suggestions Message-ID: <20160327.131943.25610.1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: re. suggestions Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:32:44 GMT To C.R.: I think your proposed change to the download page (adding"93 MB" just above the download button for GIMP for Windows) is easy, simple, and clear. I recommend it highly! To Alex: What do I suggest you do about it? I thought that the features of the latest version of Photoshop could be listed and tried, and any features that anyone likes in any other programs, as well as original ideas, and that GIMP could be presented so that even the relatively inexperienced (like me!) could easily and quickly understand that those useful features are available, what they are, and how to find and conveniently use them. I wasn't specific because I certainly don't know everything about either well-known program! I've found a 653-page GIMP user manual, which took forever to download on this borrowed old Mac laptop. I was in too much of a hurry to read more than about a page of it. I couldn't find a link that would allow me to copy and save the manual file so I might be able to look at it later, after I have to return the laptop and when I can't get an Internet connection. (Since the laptop got wet (before I borrowed it), the screen and image files appear in very startling and frequently changing colors! This makes it even more of a challenge to get good results from image editing very quickly.) ____________________________________________________________ Places You'll See 38 Stunning Photos of Norwegian's Biggest, Baddest Cruise Ship http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/56f8409e22280409d48f4st02vuc ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 23:26:14 +0100 From: C R <cajhne@xxxxxxxxx> To: "mailreader@xxxxxxxx" <mailreader@xxxxxxxx> Cc: gimp-developer <gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: re. suggestions Message-ID: <CABdJpS6z4tuJEd9rB-s_grLNUCWJ+i4_gmBL9jsXhRWFhnRsSQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > To C.R.: I think your proposed change to the download page (adding"93 MB" > just above the download button for GIMP for Windows) is easy, simple, and > clear. I recommend it highly! > We used to list the file size on the download buttons. Apparently the feature didn't get added to the new web layout (which is much better than our old one in almost every way possible) I'm sure it's just an oversight. To Alex: What do I suggest you do about it? I thought that the features > of the latest version of Photoshop could be listed and tried, and any > features that anyone likes in any other programs, as well as original > ideas, and that GIMP could be presented so that even the relatively > inexperienced (like me!) could easily and quickly understand that those > useful features are available, what they are, and how to find and > conveniently use them. Where on the Adobe website does it list the features of Photoshop compared to GIMP? GIMP is not made to be competition with Photoshop, and conversely, Photoshop is not made to be in competition with GIMP. They are both highly sophisticated image editors, but they are different programs. They are simply built for similar purposes.This is why you will not see a feature-comparison done on either website. Since you are new to both programs, I recommend GIMP. The time you would spend learning Photoshop is about the same as the time it takes to learn GIMP. For your effort, get these advantages: 1. You get a software application that will dutifully serve your photo-editing needs, for free, for both professional and hobbyist uses without limitation. 2. You get free updates, and will never have to pay any money for GIMP. 3. You will never be bothered by license keys that run out, or other software imposed DRM protection that gets in the way of your work. 4. You will be able to work on any Desktop OS you choose, be it Linux, Mac, or Windows, giving you the freedom to choose your working environment and take your tools with you if you decide to switch. 5. You will have a program that you can modify and re-program for your own needs when you become an advanced user. 6. You can teach and learn graphic design, and photo editing without requiring your student(s) or teacher(s) to buy and install locked-down and expensive proprietary software, or buy software subscriptions. 7. You can participate in a friendly and helpful community that spans many FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) application projects. Many of whom will seem like family after a while. :) 8. You will produce graphics in a construction format (.xcf) that can be given to and edited by anyone using GIMP, for free. 9. You can get live help with your problems on irc channels, and mailing lists, and get to speak to the developers and other contributors to the project. Additionally, there are numerous forums all over the internet full of happy GIMP users, and tons of books, manuals, and videos devoted to doing everything you would like to (both novice and professional) using GIMP. So, welcome to the community. :) I recommend starting here: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ Good luck, and if you have questions, feel free to message me directly. I'll point you in the right direction. -C > I wasn't specific because I certainly don't know everything about either > well-known program! I've found a 653-page GIMP user manual, which took > forever to download on this borrowed old Mac laptop. I was in too much of > a hurry to read more than about a page of it. I couldn't find a link that > would allow me to copy and save the manual file so I might be able to look > at it later, after I have to return the laptop and when I can't get an > Internet connection. (Since the laptop got wet (before I borrowed it), the > screen and image files appear > in very startling and frequently changing colors! This makes it even > more of a challenge to get good results from image editing very quickly.) > ____________________________________________________________ > Places You'll See > 38 Stunning Photos of Norwegian's Biggest, Baddest Cruise Ship > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/56f8409e22280409d48f4st02vuc > _______________________________________________ > gimp-developer-list mailing list > List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list ------------------------------ End of gimp-developer-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 22 *************************************************** ____________________________________________________________ Places You'll See 38 Stunning Photos of Norwegian's Biggest, Baddest Cruise Ship http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/56f9375cc2204375c5226st01vuc _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
