On Fri, 08 May 2015 20:46:43 -0400, Liam R. E. Quin wrote: > On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 22:04 +0100, C R wrote: >> > I'd be ok with having two links labeled "Download GIMP 2.8.14 via >> > HTTP" and "Download GIMP 2.8.14 via Bittorrent" right above each >> > other, in any order. This should also help to reduce the >> > explanation for Bittorrent to one short paragraph >> > >> > To make this a bit more obvious, I'm imagining something like this >> > instead of the current few lines: >> > >> >> How about this? >> http://opendesignstudio.org/gimp/samples/gimp_windows_download_buttons2.png > > Close. I'd still put the Bittorrent one first with text like > > Get GIMP for Windows using Bittorrent. Fastest download. Least load on the GIMP servers. Requires a bittorrent client. Learn more... > > Get GIMP for Windows over the Web with HTTP. Slower but no special program is needed. > > Note, I'm repeating "GIMP for Windows" to minimize doubt. Think about this from the perspective of photographers or other graphic artists who otherwise aren't particularly tech-savvy. They don't know what "load on the GIMP servers" means and don't care. The download's really not that big anyway; they'll spend more time learning about BitTorrent (much less installing it) than they will just downloading it via HTTP. It's 87 MB or so; over my piddly little 1500/368 DSL link, that works out to about 9 minutes. I spent more time than that just reading about BitTorrent to even comment here. If you're asking people to go to wikipedia with a huge list of BitTorrent clients (which is intended as a reference, not as a guide) and telling them to select one, you're going to drive them crazy. If they pick an adware or malware client inadvertently (or because it has changed since el Wik listed it), they're going to blame GIMP for it ("hey, you're the ones who told us to go here!"). Downloading by browser is simple and everyone has done it countless times. If you provide an ftp link, the browser can even restart it if it's interrupted (which for something that small isn't very likely). The reason BitTorrent puts less load on download.gimp.org is that it puts that load on people who have downloaded and are downloading GIMP. Once you start downloading it, others may then downloads chunks of it from *you*. Aside from potential TOS violations and the like, that's going to take up some of your bandwith, which the wording proposed above doesn't tell anyone. You're asking -- not forcing, I know, but trying very hard to encourage -- people to do something they aren't likely to understand and can go wrong with in a lot of ways just to reduce gimp.org server load. That load could be reduced in other ways, such as by mirroring on Sourceforge, kernel.org, wherever. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> *** MIT Engineers A Proud Tradition http://mitathletics.com *** Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list