On Sat, 02 May 2015 11:21:37 -0300, Gez wrote: > El sáb, 02-05-2015 a las 06:09 -0400, Elle Stone escribió: >> > I'd like to see this discussion heading towards a real world list of >> > examples of real needs for such options that can't be satisfied with >> > anything else than these toggles. >> >> You are presupposing that the devs can foresee every possible use to >> which a user might put a given editing operation. > > No, I'm saying that users like us should describe real world situations > where certain options are needed in order to convince developers of the > necessity of such options. > "Let me do whatever I want" is not a good argument. Yes it is, because we don't know every possible use to which someone will put something. We've had the same issue come up in Gutenprint. Gutenprint exposes just about every internal control option to users, if they want to play with them. It allows things that could actually cause _physical_ damage to printers, in particular specifying ink limits so high that they would completely soak through non-coated paper and would form large puddles on coated papers that could gum up the print head. But then it turned out that people wanted to do things with printers that we had never envisioned: printing T-shirts, and doing chemical deposition (in one case, literally printing circuits onto paper using electroconductive inks). It turned out to be very fortunate for those users that we had never imposed limits of that kind because "that isn't something anybody should be doing". The one concession that we did make was to group options into different levels of interface complexity, and add an option to the PPD file generator to generate simplified PPD files with only the basic options. But the default is to use the full-featured interface. Obviously there are resource constraints here; developers can only do so much, and have to make decisions about what to do that are mutually exclusive on time constraints alone. But deliberately leaving something out of this kind of project because there isn't an obvious real world use case is not, in my view, a good thing. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> *** MIT Engineers A Proud Tradition http://mitathletics.com *** Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
