El dom, 29-03-2015 a las 11:53 -0400, Elle Stone escribió: > What you just described - shift-click the new layer button plus dragging > the foreground/background color - works perfectly, MUCH better than > using the new layer dialog. Thanks! Many thanks!! By comparision, using > the new layer dialog really is cumbersome. Dragging bg/fg colors to the editing area is definitely a handy option in GIMP, and it also has predefined keystrokes (ctrl+. and ctrl+,). iirc the keystrokes are the same that PS uses. If clicking just created a transparent layer, it would be much faster and less disrupting to fill the new layer afterwards when it's required. The only situation that would require an extra click is filling with white if other BG/FG colors are set, but it's just one click away. > Where's the documentation for these two shortcuts? I did a quick > internet search and didn't find any tutorials or documentation regarding > "shift-click" plus "drag the color". GIMP official docs: http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-tools.html#gimp-toolbox-areas The shift-click on the new layer button is not documented though, it's only available as a tooltip http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-dialogs-structure.html#gimp-layer-dialog The docs also say that "A good way to visualize a GIMP image is as a stack of transparencies: in GIMP terminology, each individual transparency is called a layer." http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-image-combining.html#gimp-concepts-layers I think that makes a reasonable case for a default using transparency and putting the extra options in a second level. As I said earlier, Tobias' proposal allows that keeping discoverability and reducing workflow interruptions. Regarding your question about hard evidence that backs my claim about most of the people expecting layers to be transparent, I don't have it and I don't think a public poll is the best way to get that. I'm a graphic designer like C R, and my workflow is similar. I'm not a photographer, but cutting out and touching up photos is part of my regular work. I use GIMP "professionally" (which means it is one of the tools I use to do work that pays my bills) so I think I am a "target" user. You can interview other "target" users of GIMP and get better results that what you'd get from a poll, and that's exactly what Peter Sikking and his team did a couple of years ago when they interviewed a group of users for input on their usage patterns. If you put a poll in a public website you will receive answers from everyone, not just from the target users. That will result in useless data. Imagine that you get 20 replies from people who hardly uses GIMP and are just hobbists who need to remove red eyes from point and shoot photos and 2 replies from serious photographers with high-end requirements. I wouldn't like that decisions on usability are done that way. For the same reason some automated statistics won't necessarily throw what target users prefer or need. Gez. _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
