Re: Gimp git on Mac Segfault

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Just to try into another direction: if you comment out the line:
parse_iso_codes (base_lang_list, NULL);
(line 173 in app/widgets/gimplanguagestore-parser.c)

Do you still have the crash? And if yes, the same trace?

Jehan

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hmmm... NULL nowhere, no strange values, nothing. Did the trace still
> say it happened at strchr() inside gimp_language_store_parser_init ()?
>
> Jehan
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Partha Bagchi <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Jehan,
>>
>> Here is the output from the crash.
>>
>> Hope it's helpful. I don't see anything myself. :(
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Partha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Partha, su_v,
>>>
>>> could you test the following patch:
>>> - copy it in your GIMP directory;
>>> - apply it with this command from the GIMP directory:
>>> patch -p0 < osx_crash.diff
>>> - compile and try again.
>>>
>>> I believe it would not fix your crash, because I did not change the
>>> calls where your traces say it happens. Problem is that it apparently
>>> crashes at strchr() but there are 5 of them in this function. Looking
>>> at what seems to be the code in MacOSX of strchr(), looks like it may
>>> be when the string is NULL, but in my code, I don't see anywhere where
>>> this is supposed to be possible.
>>> So unless you can run a debugger to know which exact strchr() line it
>>> happens at, I added some debug output in the code. Just copy paste
>>> anything which may be outputted before crash.
>>> You will most likely have a whole bunch of lines on screen because I
>>> want to cover as much ground as possible, so you can run like this:
>>> $ ./gimp-2.9 --verbose >output.txt
>>>
>>> Then send me the output.txt after the crash occurs.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jehan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Argh! I should nearly have a Mac just to test code there! uhuh
>>> > Let me have a look. :-)
>>> >
>>> > Jehan
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Partha Bagchi <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Should have mentioned the segfault is related to
>>> >> gimp_language_store_parser_init ()
>>> >>
>>> >> __________________________________________________________________________
>>> >> ./gimp-2.9 --verbose
>>> >> Cannot spawn a message bus without a machine-id: Unable to load
>>> >> /var/lib/dbus/machine-id or /etc/machine-id: Failed to open file
>>> >> '/var/lib/dbus/machine-id': No such file or directory
>>> >> This is a development version of GIMP.  Debug messages may appear here.
>>> >>
>>> >> INIT: gimp_load_config
>>> >> Parsing '/Users/partha/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.9/unitrc'
>>> >> Parsing
>>> >>
>>> >> '/Users/partha/projects/src/gimp/Gimp-2.9.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gimp/2.0/gimprc'
>>> >> Parsing '/Users/partha/Library/Application Support/GIMP/2.9/gimprc'
>>> >> ./gimp-2.9: fatal error: Segmentation fault: 11
>>> >> ./gimp-2.9 (pid:63964): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack trace or
>>> >> [P]roceed: S
>>> >> #0  0x00007fff8b970698 in __wait4 ()
>>> >> #1  0x0000000101868353 in g_on_error_stack_trace ()
>>> >> #2  0x00000001018687f2 in g_on_error_query ()
>>> >> #3  0x000000010000dee4 in gimp_eek ()
>>> >> #4  0x000000010000df58 in gimp_fatal_error ()
>>> >> #5  0x000000010000e7b6 in gimp_sigfatal_handler ()
>>> >> #6  <signal handler called>
>>> >> #7  0x00007fff8cb0a60b in strchr ()
>>> >> #8  0x0000000100167614 in gimp_language_store_parser_init ()
>>> >> #9  0x0000000100012c75 in gui_init ()
>>> >> #10 0x000000010000d890 in app_run ()
>>> >> #11 0x000000010000fe24 in main ()
>>> >>
>>> >> __________________________________________________________________________
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Partha
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Partha Bagchi <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jehan,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Looks like the segfault is back?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Partha
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Partha Bagchi <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Jehan,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thumbs up! All good now. It didn't crash and I was able to open
>>> >>>> images
>>> >>>> etc.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks again,
>>> >>>> Partha
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Jehan Pagès
>>> >>>> <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Hey Partha,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> you can pull and test now. I made a simple commit where I only take
>>> >>>>> care of the unset env variable issue. Hopefully this will fix the
>>> >>>>> OSX
>>> >>>>> crash. I'll handle the other issue I discovered about not being
>>> >>>>> thread-safe later.
>>> >>>>> Tell me how it goes. :-)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Jehan
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Jehan Pagès
>>> >>>>> <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>>>> > Partha,
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > nothing pushed yet. I'll do this and send a message. :-)
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Jehan
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Partha Bagchi
>>> >>>>> > <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> > wrote:
>>> >>>>> >> Jehan,
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> Do you want me to go ahead test the current code or wait for you
>>> >>>>> >> to
>>> >>>>> >> add
>>> >>>>> >> additional logic?
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >>>>> >> Partha
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Jehan Pagès
>>> >>>>> >> <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> I searched a little more though, and it seems on BSDs, hence on
>>> >>>>> >>> OSX,
>>> >>>>> >>> indeed setenv with a NULL value could crash the program. The
>>> >>>>> >>> setenv
>>> >>>>> >>> in
>>> >>>>> >>> GNU libc on the other hand perfectly handles the case
>>> >>>>> >>> explicitly.
>>> >>>>> >>> So obviously when I see this kind of code (note I am not 100%
>>> >>>>> >>> sure
>>> >>>>> >>> this is the code for Darwin on Mountain Lion but I can't find a
>>> >>>>> >>> reference linking the libc numbers there and the Darwin version
>>> >>>>> >>> 10.8,
>>> >>>>> >>> but I assume that should be a similar code):
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/Libc/Libc-825.26/stdlib/FreeBSD/setenv.c
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> Before any test on the value pointer, it dereferences it (which
>>> >>>>> >>> is
>>> >>>>> >>> undefined!), and read the content of the non-existing first
>>> >>>>> >>> character
>>> >>>>> >>> of the NULL string (which I assume would crash!):
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> if (*value == '=') /* no `=' in value */
>>> >>>>> >>> ++value;
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> I don't know what is the policy on BSD but I thought they were
>>> >>>>> >>> very
>>> >>>>> >>> keen on security, but this code does not look very sane to me.
>>> >>>>> >>> So yeah anyway that's a problem too in the end. I'll deal with
>>> >>>>> >>> it.
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> Jehan
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Partha Bagchi
>>> >>>>> >>> <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> > Jehan,
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> > I will test it tomorrow. I will get back to you with the
>>> >>>>> >>> > results.
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> > Thanks for your prompt response!
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> > Partha
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Jehan Pagès
>>> >>>>> >>> > <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> Hi again,
>>> >>>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> I have some working code in my working branch now where I
>>> >>>>> >>> >> applied
>>> >>>>> >>> >> the
>>> >>>>> >>> >> concepts I wrote about (basically initializing the language
>>> >>>>> >>> >> store
>>> >>>>> >>> >> only
>>> >>>>> >>> >> once and at the very start of the program, before any
>>> >>>>> >>> >> threading
>>> >>>>> >>> >> would
>>> >>>>> >>> >> occur hopefully).
>>> >>>>> >>> >> Don't know if that will be the finale code, but should be at
>>> >>>>> >>> >> least
>>> >>>>> >>> >> good enough to test on OSX (I don't have access to a OSX
>>> >>>>> >>> >> machine
>>> >>>>> >>> >> to
>>> >>>>> >>> >> reproduce the bug myself and see if this indeed fixes the
>>> >>>>> >>> >> issue).
>>> >>>>> >>> >> As
>>> >>>>> >>> >> soon as the report is up, I'll upload the patch there so that
>>> >>>>> >>> >> someone
>>> >>>>> >>> >> with OSX can test it and tell me if that fixes it. :-)
>>> >>>>> >>> >> Thanks.
>>> >>>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> Jehan
>>> >>>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Jehan Pagès
>>> >>>>> >>> >> <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > Hey all,
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > it seems I am the culprit for this bug. I don't have this
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > crash
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > on
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > Linux
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > though.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > It looks like the implementation of setenv/getenv is
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > different
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > on
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > OSX.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > According to glib doc, the problem may be that on some
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > implementations, successive calls may use the same buffer.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > I
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > guess
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > that's the case on OSX. And also these calls are not
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > thread-safe.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > Also
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > the fact that there is no LANGUAGE env variable should
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > normally
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > not
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > be
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > a real problem. I don't have this variable set on my system
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > either
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > and, as I said, no crash here. I guess this brought the
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > real
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > issue of
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > the OSX getenv/setenv implementation into light though.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > In any case, I think that the real solution is to have the
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > list
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > of
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > all
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > localized languages generated at startup, before any thread
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > or
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > anything happens (I just saw that's also what glib doc
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > says: we
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > should
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > only use these calls on startup before any thread happens).
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > Then we
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > just use this pre-generated list each time it is needed. I
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > was
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > already
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > thinking that the current design was bad anyway, because we
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > are
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > basically parsing a huge file of language codes and names
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > each
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > time
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > we
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > open the preference dialog! Such a waste of resources and
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > time.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > I did not modify it at the time because I did not feel like
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > using
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > more
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > time towards this, but I guess that should be the occasion
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > to
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > do it.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > In any case, please fill a bug report and I'll have a look!
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > :-)
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > Jehan
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Partha Bagchi
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> Hey V,
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> Thanks for checking on this. I am glad (in a way) that my
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> system is
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> not
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> the
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> only one having this issue! :)
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> I will try to revert the above changes and see if the
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> problem
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> disappears.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> Partha
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:51 AM, su_v
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> <suv-sf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> On 2013-07-17 01:19 +0100, Partha Bagchi wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > My recent (last built a few moment ago) git builds
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > (2.9)
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > have
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > been
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > instantly segfaulting on MBR running Mountain Lion.
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > gdb backtrace (or commandline execution) shows:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ./gimp-2.9 (pid:42315): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > trace
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > or
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > [P]roceed:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> S
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #0  0x00007fff8b257698 in __wait4 ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #1  0x00000001018de353 in g_on_error_stack_trace ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #2  0x00000001018de7f2 in g_on_error_query ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #3  0x000000010000fa54 in gimp_eek ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #4  0x000000010000fac8 in gimp_fatal_error ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #5  0x0000000100010326 in gimp_sigfatal_handler ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #6  <signal handler called>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #7  0x00007fff8c40887e in setenv ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #8  0x00000001018f76cf in g_setenv ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #9  0x0000000100168c11 in gimp_language_store_self_l10n
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #10 0x0000000101915c99 in emit_start_element ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #11 0x00000001019170b0 in g_markup_parse_context_parse
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #12 0x000000010035a7ba in
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > gimp_xml_parser_parse_io_channel
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #13 0x000000010035a9ab in gimp_xml_parser_parse_file ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #14 0x0000000100168f71 in
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > gimp_language_store_parse_iso_codes ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #15 0x000000010188619b in g_object_new_internal ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #16 0x0000000101886cdd in g_object_newv ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #17 0x0000000101886edc in g_object_new ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #18 0x0000000100168025 in gimp_language_entry_new ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #19 0x000000010017cc00 in gimp_prop_language_entry_new
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #20 0x00000001000a3df2 in gimp_text_options_gui ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #21 0x000000010005e9e6 in gimp_tools_restore ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #22 0x000000010001428b in gui_restore_callback ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #23 0x000000010187dd0d in g_closure_invoke ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #24 0x000000010189483b in signal_emit_unlocked_R ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #25 0x0000000101897111 in g_signal_emit_valist ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #26 0x0000000101897964 in g_signal_emit ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #27 0x000000010000f2fe in app_run ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > #28 0x0000000100011994 in main ()
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > and gimp-2.9 --verbose
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ...
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > Parsing '/Users/partha/Library/Application
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > Support/GIMP/2.9/tool-options/gimp-text-tool'
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ./gimp-2.9: fatal error: Segmentation fault: 11
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > ./gimp-2.9 (pid:42330): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > trace
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > or
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > [P]roceed:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > Is anyone else on the Mac having this issue? Should I
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > file
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > a
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > bug-report?
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> Reproduced (same stack trace) on MBR (13-inch, Late 2011)
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> running
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> OS X
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> 10.7.5; dependencies for GIMP installed via MacPorts
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> (custom
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> portfiles
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> for babl, gegl and GIMP git master).
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> Workaround (at least for this segfault at launch time) is
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> to
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> run
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> GIMP
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> like this:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> $ echo $LANG
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> en_US.UTF-8
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> $ LANGUAGE="$LANG" gimp --verbose
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> Possibly related to the changes in
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> <
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/commit/?id=f6dcde1ee66fda4dfdc063022c4d2e901adb9a71
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> <
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/commit/?id=4eecd9b4ac71615f10819378938dcdce7e531167
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> hth, V
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> gimp-developer-list mailing list
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> List address:    gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> List membership:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> gimp-developer-list mailing list
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> List address:    gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> List membership:
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>
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