On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, peter sikking <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Richard Gitschlag wrote: > >> So if I may throw an echo into the room and ask why the particular message box CAN NOT provide a yes/no prompt, with "Yes" transferring control to the Export box and "No" cancelling back to the Save dialog? > > as I said before: no trip through Save if it is not safe. > > it is simply not allowed to ‘feel’ safe. seriously. If I open a PNG, adjust the curves, and serialize it to the filesystem as a PNG, and then open that in GIMP, there isn't anything meaningfully different between that and if I serialized it to XCF and opened it. So I have a hard time calling one safe and the other not. In both cases, I get all of the adjusted image data. In neither case do I get the curve that I used to adjust the image back, or the old image data back. I really don't care one way or another about whether GIMP goes the "everything is save" route or the "export if it's not native" route. I've used plenty of software that goes each way. But let me throw in a few points of data. My wife is the kind of person that would be in GIMP's official target audience. She's asked me three times how to save something as PNG since I installed 2.8. While my living room is hardly a usability lab, I've been behind the one-way glass in one enough to say there is probably a discoverability issue there. Furthermore, even after I showed her how to export as PNG and she asked why they changed, I tried explaining the rationale and that other programs did it, and she still seemed unimpressed. She is quite aware of the differences between different file formats, and I get the impression that she finds the distinction between serializing as XCF and other formats to not warrant different treatment. On the other hand, she tends to use several applications in a workflow, and when your workflow isn't GIMP-centric, the XCF doesn't really contain much of the state of the workflow anyway. Rockwalrus _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list