On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 18:37 +0200, gg wrote: [to SorinN] > As the in-house GUI expert , I'm rather surprised you don't see that as > the priority too. But if you have "attachment" there's probably no harm > in you liking it. Useability does not operate in a vacuum - branding is part of the user experience. Useable is aslo not always the same as "immediately comfortable." Please, let's not attack people. It's really only a few pixels, and if that's such a major issue I'd expect a bigger focus on more efficient use of space in the docks and the file chooser dialogue. Power users can turn wilber off, and I more often hear requests for a toolbar (which would use up as much or more space!) than for how to turn off wilber from newcomers to the gimp. Perhaps this is because Photoshop and Illustrator also use the same space for branding. I do think that if gtk had an explicit "drop files here" widget, maybe like the one Sun and AT&T experimented with some 15 years ago (theirs also had a "drag out from here" button that changed when the document was non-empty) then the demands on Wilber might change, both in the toolbox and in the no-image-window, but such a drag widget would need to be used elsewhere, e.g in the gnome text editor, file manager, etc. The useability studies at the time were very promising. Best, Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list