On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 06:10:33AM +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 03/15/2011 08:47 PM, Charlie De wrote: > > Why?? Rupert Weber finished this last September and you promised it would be in > > 2.8. Is this how you show respect for the most stellar effort by a new talent? > > Shame, truly, shame on you. It's now been 5 years since the issue was first > > reported, you're going to add another year even though the work is done. That > > is, if you don't break your promise again. Where's your integrity? > > If we never make releases, we won't get new contributors either. We > really need to make a release ASAP, and we simply don't have time to fix > this before the 2.8 release. In modern software development, > uncomfortable decisions like this sometimes needs to be made. I am sorry > that it upsets you. > you "took the time" to make tabs expand with the names of the dialog which the tab belonged to. you also spend a lot of time repairing a script-fu for which a tool already worked fine for -- a script-fu which might better have been rewritten to use the current tool. other bugs don't get closed after patches are applied. i mention these things because you have access and except for the closing bugs problem, these are the things that you have done in the last year or so. martin, if in, oh, lets say 3 days, March 18, 2011 the majority of your list items are not commited, perhaps you should consider stepping aside. "releases" don't attract developers. look at the history! gimp-1.0 - gimp-1.2, 1997 thru 2000. lots of contributors, lots of development, lots of ideas, lots of bug fixing. it was a lot of fun. "buildbot" nightlies seem to have attracted "mitch" who has been working on things consistently and changes to the italian po files. gimp has been stable enough to run the unstable version (with an exception for the current layer groups and a problem with painting since the end of last September) for years and years now. sometimes, you gotta quit -- and see if that helps things. i sure didn't like what was going on, i needed to be forced to quit. so, okay fine, i quit for more than two years, maybe more than three and you know what? the problem wasn't me because all of the things that i did not like persisted and there was no improvement in involvement -- in fact, involvement (especially by people who can fix bugs and have some knowlege of gimps innards) dropped off. i cannot force you to quit the way i was forced to quit. i can only ask you to consider this and also that before you quit, that you removed the buildbot stuff from gimp's source and put it into eh, lets say buildbots source on the same server. that way, other projects can become rejuvinated with buildbot product the way that gimp has been. i was told that it was a gnome project afterall... carol _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer