Cedric Sodhi wrote: > I'd like to bring up an idea that does not seem too difficult to > implement and that should replace the unusuable slider widgets for, > say, > brush size. If you are okay with that, I might implement it. > > The sliders are virtually useless because they cover a fixed range > from > 0 to <insert big value here> without any intelligent behaviour. For > the > brush size, for example, that means you can at best alter the brush > size > in 20px steps with a reasonably big toolbox. I think I have something there for us that is more straightforward: two things actually: #1 is what I got the Krita guys to implement during a sprint of theirs that I attended, it was based on my work on #2 actually. It works for long sliders in dialog boxes, not for our tool options panels. say you got a slider going from 1 to 1000. then divide the slider range (in pixels) in 3 equal parts, so that each handles a decade: |-- 1–10 --|-- 10–100 --|-- 100–1000 --| within each third the increase/decrease of value is linear. the Krita guys love this system (hardcore tablet users, btw), but as I said: only for long sliders. #2 is where I developed the whole idea. I was working on tool options widgets that would allow the whole tool options dockable to be exactly 2 toolbox icons wide (normal icon size, the need for the small theme goes away a.f.a.t. toolbox is concerned): <http://mmiworks.net/test/small.png> top to bottom those are are 1 popup selection list, 4 sliders and two 'checkboxes' (on/off switches), in real 1-to-1 size. yes, cut off texts are shown fully on mouse-over: this is GIMP and usage is trained, so position; (part) identification and feedback (could better on the checkbox, I see now) are what count. you can see here where the current experimental sliders in git come from. Krite did their #1 sliders in this form, but not the following: so how are these tiny sliders going to work? well click the mouse button down on the slider (not on the number) and this pops up: <http://mmiworks.net/test/decadepopup.png> with the current value right under the mouse position, so releasing in panic does not change the slider value. moving vertically you switch decades, horizontally everything is linear within a decade. one could easily add decades, having a range factor of a million for instance (e.g. 0.01–10000) when that is needed. grocking is simple, motions (up/down, left/right) are linear, feedback always there. is there a flaw? yes: popping up at the screen's edge, and wanting the 'value right under the mouse' to work. --ps founder + principal interaction architect man + machine interface works http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
