Dear Alexia, On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Alexia Death <alexiadeath@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This is not an issue to be fixed. This is a consious decision made in the > deveopment of gimp- > (..) > Nobody is forcing anyone to use it, but for some reason you want to. > (..) > And finally just a general thought: To have a conversation you need to be > willing to listen as well as talk. Alexia, I have subscribed to this group to make a conversation and it is in progress, so your thought is too general. Also to make situation clear - there are changes iposed to a GIMP 2.6 GUI, mainly to make it more user friendly and functional, this is fine. I am asking for an option to have one old functionality back, this is an issue for me because it was there and it is not at the moment. I am not talking about reversing all changes, but to bring option for a user to select whether he/she want the menu in the toolbar. I am not forcing anyone to use new or old design, as you try to imply, but to leave user a choice with a simple option as they are many in the Preferences dialog. By removing the menu and leaving no option by "conscious decision" _you_ are forcing people to use new design and this is what you told and this is what I am telling, so please reconsider who is not listening. If the new no-window is better for new users, let it be, but also there could be an option to make menu visible in the toolbar, for the dinosaurs - I gave you few simple solutions on how this can be implemented, also there are such ideas on the GUI Brainstorming page. I just don't understand why this button, icon, or anything is such a problem for you - there are people that enjoyed it - and those people are not forcing anyone to use the menu, as there are menus in other places, also in the no-window. I will wait for 2.8 to see the final result or your bright vision... now I have to get back to work, also good luck to you and please remember about user feedback (also when changes are implemented - not all users are developers) :-) @Ofnuts: for me, the window interface that showed in Atari/Amiga/Commodoer/Apple was very similar to the Win 3..7 as you mentioned - there are windows and buttons and icons. How these windows and buttons look like is not that important, but when some buttons are removed (not rearranged) this is a problem - because in fact all of those buttons are still there, rearranged, recoloured, etc :-) Regards, Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer