I also think that the toolbox Wilber is an inefficient use of space, so here is an idea (my apologies if this has already been discussed/thought of): Right now there are 3 status items in Preferences->Toolbox->Appearance, that when checked appear below the toolbox tool icons. Add a 4th status item choice which would appear as a drop box/icon with Wilber's face in it. Those who like having it can check it on, and those who feel that any/all 4 items are wasted space can turn all 4 off. The space above the toolbox is eliminated. Bill -- The second mouse gets the cheese. _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer