Hi Sven, On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Sven Neumann <sven@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 14:21 +1030, David Gowers wrote: > > > This second class is really all I can see traditional plugins needing > > to do after GEGLification is complete and stable. Ie. the first class > > of plugins wouldn't need to use the PDB at all, probably. > > Do you agree with this idea? > > Absolutely not. The GEGL API is not sufficient for this class of > plug-ins as plug-ins will still need access to GIMP objects such as > layers and masks and whatever else. There are associated GEGL nodes for > these objects, but that is by no means sufficient. Oh.. of course. Sorry, I was thinking about things like gradient-map, normalize, and tile. More complex things like warp, gimpressionist, or sample colorize didn't occur to me.. > > > > In that case, it makes sense that a plug-in would mainly provide > > actions. It is also useful to be able to trigger other actions, since > > many things aren't accessible through the PDB yet, only as actions. > > (for example, I would like to make a plugin that creates an additional > > display, zooms it to 200% and then shrink wraps it, so I have a > > 'working area' and a 'real size' view.) > > This is intentional. The PDB doesn't provide access to the GIMP user > interface. Scripts and plug-ins are supposed to in non-interactive mode > as well. What you are asking for is completely outside the realm of the > PDB and it is not going to be added there, ever. If we really want to > expose such user interface functionality to scripts, then we will need a > different scripting API for it. > > > Sven Okay. The kind of plug-ins I'm talking about are also too lightweight for the current framework -- it's best if they run quickly -- and my current workaround can run them quickly (20 times / second for the average one). Truthfully UI manipulation doesn't fit in that area, almost everything is either about a quick manipulation on the image (vector-smooth a binary selection, colorize a greyscale, 'apply' a layer) or a quick change to the context (interpolate colors, colorize a brush, sieve a brush). I really think there is a place for this type of simple 'macro' host. Hopefully I can get it into releasable state soon. I'll just have to hack around the rest.) Thanks for your time. _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
