On 12/11/2007, peter sikking <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well, this topic is not so clear cut. There are many factors: > > - the relationship with vector apps, especially inkscape. > we saw during the user scenario weekend that live update > of linked-in svgs as they are saved by inkscape would fit > a symbiosis between the two. This use doesn't sound like it even requires vector layers to work. The only advantage of vector layers is that it is easy to edit them from within GIMP, which isn't so important if you are editing them only in Inkscape. I agree that this would indeed be a very cool feature =). > - yes, GIMP needs to be able to paint simple shapes, but > we do not want to go overboard here with the variety of shapes. Right now the layers operate on arbitrary paths, so any shape which you can make a path out of can be made into a vector layer. This makes them very powerful, but I can see that you would want special cases for a couple of simple shapes. You can get a rectangle using the rectangular select tool, then converting the selection to a path, but when you go to edit the path afterwards it won't be constrained to a rectangular shape anymore. Also, going through selections isn't very intuitive. > - GEGL vs. vector, where is the dividing line when in the > future with GEGL everything added to the image remains > modifiable and removable? I'm not sure what the question here is, wouldn't vector layers only help this philosophy? As far as I understand their purpose is to avoid having to do permanent "stroke path" operations, instead making the shape easily modifiable and impermanent. > Somehow we need to find a balance here where trivial stuff > can be done in an obvious way within GIMP, we do not branch > out into specialised inkscape territory and come up with > something that fits the GEGL architecture. I see vector layers as being a replacement for most uses of the current stroke/fill path. It accomplishes the same thing, but has the advantage that you don't have to keep re-doing it when the path is changed, as it updates automatically. I agree with what Sven said about waiting for UI design though, as to develop without waiting for specs nearly always leads to wasted effort. Henk Boom _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer