Guillermo wrote: > Fist of all, I want to thank Peter for his excellent work. I'm glad to > see that several problems of GIMP's GUI are being revisited and > most of > the solutions suggested will be welcome in future releases. you're welcome. > I don't agree with #1 request, though. I know that this has been a > frequent request for years, but I think it's just a matter of > habit. I'm > a Photoshop user, and a Gimp user, too. After a couple of days I could > understand the power of floating windows. Switching between floating > windows and fullscreen with F11 is fast and easy, and my workflow > is far > better this way. > And when I connected a second monitor it was even better. Floating > windows ROCK! you do have a good point with the second monitor angle. Although we have to primarily work for the one monitor case, creating a solution that also works great over two monitors is important. > Turning Gimp into a MDI application will make several users happy, but > IMO it won't benefit Gimp at all. > I think it would be better to improve the way those floating > windows work: > - by creating only one item in the windows list, grouping GIMP's > windows, instead of one item for each panel (it's quite confusing) I say no item in the window list. inspectors do not match users' goals, image windows do. > - by making toolbox and dockers dependant of the "canvas" window. > As it was discussed before, this brings a new problem: where should > the > menu bar be placed. Of course, the document window is the most ovbious > choice, but as we use floating windows, it won't be any document > window > when we open the program. > Maybe the best option is to create a new kind of splashscreen, > where we > get as options: > -Create a new image (if you choose this, the new image dialog appears, > with dimensions, templates, color mode, etc.) > -Open existing image/s (if you choose this, the filer appears, letting > you pick an image or a group of images). > Once you made your choice, the toolbox and dockers will appear > along the > document/s window/s. > (I'm thinking about something like the latest Adobe Premiere Pro > initial > screen, for instance, but in the GTK/floating windows fashion) My intuition tells me that such 'ms outlook' approach would work against the goal of GIMP being a high-end expert tool. I am much more enthusiastic about having the tip of the day in the main window in a 'no image' situation. And to have all new tips there, that can bring experienced users to the next level. > Another thing that was covered in your work is the use of the screen > space. I agree that the current menu layout is a waste of pixels. > But this is already possible to improve in Gimp using the small theme > and putting the tool options panel in the docker window. This > allows you > to shrink the toolbox, gaining much window space. > You can see a screenshot of my current tool layout in gimp using that > idea here: > http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Gimp-Screenshot.jpg We are investigating in the same direction at the moment, but I cannot decide for one million users that by default they can have either the tool options, or the color specifier. So I need to look for different compromises. --ps principal user interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
