For Bill: > > I reported this bug in this list some time ago . . . > > For philosophical questions, it is good to bring them up first > on this list. But for actual bugs, in the sense of the > program doing something that is clearly incorrect, it is > best to file a Bugzilla report. The advantage, and disadvantage, > of Bugzilla is that nothing reported there is ever forgotten -- > and few reports are completely ignored. Well, I am really tired about reporting bugs at Bugzilla and not even getting an answer, specially for Fedora bugs. So tired that I don't even fill bugs anymore, and in fact planning to abandon Fedora. bugzilla.redhat.com = DEAD. But, for what you said, I assume the GIMP Bugzilla is good. However, about a year or two ago, I reported a bug in Bugzilla: the mouse buttons in GIMP main image window do nothing when I have attached a my Wacom tablet. ONLY in GIMP. This happened with Fedora 4,5,6 (fresh installs), with GIMP stable and devel versions. It is the only program that I have this problem, and the bug is still alive. For gg: > I suspect it got ignored since one pixel offset errors are pretty > much to be expected. ???!!! Well, now this answer was indeed unexpected! For me this kind of bugs is enough reason to never use a program!!! You cannot apply a filter with masks if it has shifts! > I dont recall you mentioning the distortion last time. I think I did. > could you provide more instructions to reproduce the error, Well, cannot tell you more... Adaptative, nonrecursive, 1 pixel radius, black=7, white=248. A 5 pixel cross in the middle of a white image, and I got a NONSYMMETRIC 6 pixel output like this: x xxx xx If you run it again, and again, you get a cellular automata. Another: Draw a small diagonal (bottom left to top right) segment, and despeckle 1 pixel in radius. Repeat Despeckle many times. You will get a diagonal moving cellular automata. Of course, I didn't discover this drawing crosses. I saw the obvious shift during despeckle in a real image. I removed my .gimpXXX files, and the bug persists. > I just made a cross ran despeckle and see not difference at all. Did you use 1 pixel radius? In fact, the bug is present for any radius, but is hard to see it for big ones. For Geert: > Is this really a bug, a radius 1 will give you a window of 3x3 pixels. No, I get a nonsymmetric output of 6 pixels. Only for the devel versions. > The despeckle filter is a median filter, with a cross five of the > nine surrounding pixels will yield a medium equal to one of the > cross pixels. You cannot get asymmetric output from a symmetric input... Thanks, L. _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer