yep, Gimp's team has its own reputation : not very opened to outside things. may be this is not completely true, for examplegimp's team has been opened to join LGM instead of going on with the GimpCons. I guess nobody is responsible and everyone can be. The fact can Gimp is a quite huge and complex software, and now existing for a long time, is the first explanation for not seeing new contributors. Everyone trust gimp's team quality ;) But it is true that Gimp has many user. The trouble is how to have feedback from users (this is one of the FOSS basis), and in the same be able to evaluate the quality of the feedback without judging. As a graphic designer, and with all the efforts i like to do, i cannot reach the level is needed to expose seriously the bug i get. I learned thisyear how to do a gdb, and i'm following Gimp/Scribus/Inkscape each for years now. And i succeed to do this backtrace only because Bryce and ACSpike took two night to explain me. And even when we report, it is hard to see if our bug is an existing or a new, just because we are never completely sure it is a bug! Just have in mind that any other user will be less involved than i am, and that, for them, doing a report is a very impressive task. Even if it is bad reported. it is sure that the more gimp is used, the more the gimp will receive junk reports. But is it a good option to say (as i heard recently) that gimp's team never wishes to have more users. Now that Krita is existing and people taking interest in it, may be the Gimp it self could be in danger and IMO that could be a big loss for FOSS. I don't have any advise to give to contributors, and noone to blame. I know that i've sometimes been hurt by some rude behavior (or what i interpreted as so). I'm convinced so this doesn't really hurt me, and i don't forget that i'm using only FOSS that are mostly coded by volunteer, and i'm sure i don't thank them enough for that. But i guess other people will react another and just turn the head. pygmee _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer