I just built GIMP from subversion trunk. This did fix the lcms plugin error. But on my system the color management preferences are not working. Specifically when I try to change any of the profiles there are significant issues. At first I though that perhaps my configuration was corrupted but removing it and letting gimp recreate it did not fix the problem (#1 below). 1. After setting one of the profiles (for example the monitor profile) in the preferences dialog it disappears after the dialog is closed. Almost like I had pressed Cancel instead of OK. That is when reopening the dialog this is reset to (None). This is happening with all of the profile settings in the dialog. 2. The profile file dialog currently does not use system standard profile directories. I know that this will not be fixed in the upcoming release. 3. The file dialog does not have a way to show hidden directories that I have been able to find other than typing in the path. This is probably a GTK issue rather than a GIMP issue. But it does make the dialog more difficult to use if you keep your profiles in the Linux standard user location for these files (IE. ~/.color/icc). I know this will not be fixed for 2.4 but would it be possible to set this up so that it at least remembers where the user last opened a profile and defaults to that location instead of always opening in the current directory? That way once I open a profile in ~/.color/icc the dialog would open in that same location the next time. 4. The file type filter on the profile file dialog is limited to *.icc or all files. Since profiles can also have a .icm extension that needs to be added to the ICC Profile filter. 5. Of course this has already been touched on but most applications that do color management do not present users with lists of files names for profiles. Rather they use a widget that parses the profiles in (at least) a given directory or, better, all system standard locations for profiles and uses the profile description tag to build a list of available profiles for the user. In addition, these widgets usually will also filter the profiles and only present users with a list of those that are of the correct type for the current context (IE. only display profiles if a user is selecting a monitor profile). In general profile file names tend to be rather cryptic and the description tag tends to be more user friendly. Unfortunately writing such a widget is somewhat involved and the only GTK application that I know of that has this feature is Cinepaint. All of the other open source apps that do this that I know about are QT based (LProf, Scribus and Krita). I know that this will not make it into 2.4 but it does need to get done at some point. Perhaps this can make it into 2.4.1 or 2.5/2.6 or whatever version is next. There should also be a UI for users to: 1. Embed profiles into images. 2. Do color space conversions to images. These are both missing at this point. Separate and separate+ does some of #2 but is rather specialized (IE. looks like it should be part of a CMYK printing work flow). The color manager plugin by Jordi Canton has this functionality but likely needs to be updated to work with gimp 2.3 and would need some work to make the UI a little more user friendly. If these changes were made to this plugin it would be good to include this as part of GIMP. Perhaps this could be done as part of the next release but I would really like to see something like this in 2.4. Without this implementing a full CM work flow is much more difficult for users. Hal _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer