Can I propose 2 more options.... 1) Pop up dialogue is activated by hotkey (and perhaps on screen widget) - this approach is used quite successfully in several 3D applications. Usual Tab or N "numeric" is used. 2) Draw options on canvas - perhaps with hotkey/widget to show hide these additional options.... This has the additional advantage of not obscuring the picture while adding numerical input. I can do some mockups if that makes any of this clearer. -- Oh, get ahold of yourself. Nobody's proposing that we parse English. -- Larry Wall in <199709032332.QAA21669@xxxxxxxx>