The thing that makes reorganizing the menus difficult is that the range of possibilities is huge, and everybody has at least slightly different ideas about the right things to do. Without some mechanism for arriving at definite decisions in a structured way, any attempt at it is bound to bog down in a fuzz of uncertainties. The only way to get anywhere is to form a small committee of 3-4 interested and cooperative volunteers, and let them work it out. I am asking for volunteers to serve on the Menu Committee -- our task will be to come up with a proposal, submit it to the gimp dev list for comments, make revisions as appropriate, then hand it to Sven, who would try to follow the recommendations but not be bound by them. (He has approved of the idea of forming such a committee.) The first order of business would be to work out procedures, but my thought is to try to have a few meetings on irc in which decisions are made by working through an agenda of proposals formulated before the meeting. This of course depends on the compatibility of people's schedules. I would hope that, by being systematic, the committee can work efficiently enough so as not to spend a tremendous amount of time on this. If you are interested in participating in the menu committee, please let me know by personal email. Best wishes, -- Bill ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ Sent via the CNPRC Email system at primate.ucdavis.edu