Hmmm.. people should start working on the tool plugin system so that some of us may have very specialized tools if we want to have them. I don't make art with GIMP and so I have not used to the work flow most artists use. I have tried to use the guides in the selection making but the guides are unconvenient to use. Juhana -- http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-graphics-dev for developers of open source graphics software