Still trying to bring up a development environment on mingw. The problem seems to be automake depending upon Struct.pm but trying to install perl modules fails because it expects ftp to behave, which it doesn't on Windows. Here was the original problem: $ automake --version Can't locate Automake/Struct.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/automake-1.8 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/msys /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/msys /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /home/ted/src/bin/automake line 47. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/ted/src/bin/automake line 47. I figure that I need to install something called Struct to perl? I assume it's Class::Struct that I need and not one of Inline::Struct, DynaLib::Struct, Win32::API::Struct, Inline::SLang::Struct, SOAP::Struct, Class::MakeMethods::Template::Struct WDDX::Struct, or some other Struct. trying: perl -MCPAN -e 'install Struct' tries to run ftp, but Windows ftp pops up ftp in another console window, making it obvious that windows ftp doesn't integrate well with msys. What's the simplest workaround? ________________________________________________________________ Juno Platinum $9.95. Juno SpeedBand $14.95. Sign up for Juno Today at http://www.juno.com! Look for special offers at Best Buy stores.