i have been having a problem with my last cvs version of gimp. i got it after it changed to gimp-2.0. there is a problem with it. i need the one without the Edit -->Copy bug i read about. i guess i need to get a version from after a certain date but from before it changed to that gimp-2.1 maddness i am glad not to be a part of. as near as i can determine, i need to first, remember what you called it and remember if i saw it on the list and try to figure out the search words. this might involve reviewing a lot of somewhat embarrassing mail in which i get upset again. 1) efficient search words for my Edit-->Copy, Edit-->Paste View problem 2) a cvs command that will request a version from a calendar date and not only the version (as bex and i documented fairly well on wgo) carol