Hi all, A while back (quite a while actually) I tried to start a discussion about where we might have next year's GimpCon. There were 2 main ideas - the first is to stage something more or less standalone - 20 odd people turn up somewhere and talk about the GIMP for 4 days. The second is to piggy-back on an existing event, taking advantage of the organisation and financing of the bigger event. I asked for ideas of events, and offers to organise the location for the 20 odd people. I also asked for proposals for dates. Unfortunately, the response was less than I'd expected, which means I probably didn't ask properly :) Today a few of us were talking about this on IRC, and a couple of concrete proposals came up. Well, more sandy-water proposals at the moment... 1) Lyon Myself and David Odin live here, we're both active in the local LUG and might get some organisational help there, David works in a university and has cleared the "in principle" issue with his boss. We would have some rooms in a university, with access to the university network, and probably guest accounts on the university network. There has been no talk of money, so we don't know how much all this access might cost. Plus: Facilities Minus: Lyon isn't easy to get to, which means higher transport costs. Dates after the 25th of June are best. 2) GUADEC The GNOME Users and Developers Conference is in the process of organising itself for the last week in June; this is about the time that I think it would be good to have a conference (around the time 2.2 comes out), before we break lots of stuff doing a gegl migration. Plus: Everything will be organised. Lots of smart people around. Minus: We're not a GNOME app, so we probably won't get travel expenses paid by the organisers (we can always ask, though - perhaps we can get a Graphics stream added, and have 4 or 5 people give presentations and get expenses that way). Again, Norway's not easy to get to. If we are having problems getting money, sponsorship might be tough (most people liable to sponsor us will also probably be sponsoring GUADEC) 3) London Sven knows some people in London who might be prepared to put in the organisational effort. Plus: London = cheap transport Minus: We don't know what facilities will be available. Other ideas (conferences we could hijack, or places where people would be able to organise stuff for us) are welcome, as well as comments on these. Please note that I have not talked about money at all really... IMHO, we need a someone who will handle the money, and a group of someones who will look for sponsorship. The problem is that we often need somebody, who could be anybody, but everybody thinks somebody will do it, and in the end nobody ends up doing it :) So it would be nice to start naming our somebodies now. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: bolsh@xxxxxxxx