Sometimes, when I get bored, I start scouring forums on the net for GIMP related chat. Of course, it's extra double plus fun to search Adobe.com's forums for talk of the GIMP. Most of it is talk about GIMP-print, of course. --==+++==-- So, did you guys know that Disney considered using the GIMP and/or Cinepaint, but instead paid some coders to make sure PS runs in WINE? <http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1210083,00.asp> >From the article: (start quote) Although Brooks [Jack Brooks, director of technology at Walt Disney Feature Animation--ed.] considered and even tried to use several open- source alternatives, including GIMP, or GNU Image Manipulation Program (see related story), and Cinepaint (formerly FilmGimp), he said he ran into performance issues with the two programs. Artists also found the open-source programs less intuitive to use than Photoshop. And while Photoshop is the program of choice among Disney's artist base, Disney is keeping an eye on Cinepaint and is even using the program in a few cases, Brooks said. "There's this whole artistic community built around Photoshop, and we couldn't easily move these people to free alternatives," Brooks said. "[But] we hope [Cinepaint] will get to the point where we can use it for more tasks." (end quote) Perhaps somebody should call Jack Brooks and see if Disney can put resources in GIMP's and GEGL's development? --==+++==-- Apparently, Adobe is ready to release PS 8 any time now. Some discussion was going on in the forums if speculation about the release date and feature set of this version; would that not play into the hands of the competition. No, somebody thought, the major competitors, GIMP, PSP, probably were the first to know these things. :-) --==+++==-- About developers listening to users: User: I'm a 3d Character artist. I build and paint 3d characters, and something I want is a way to paint in realtime onto my models. I know that there are other third party solutions for this, but photoshop is the best thing to paint with. I've seen it done with the GIMP, but there's no way I'm using linux. What are the technical limitations to this? If it's an OS problem, I personally have contacts at Microsoft who i've talked to about this problem and they seemed interested in it but there's nowhere to go without some Adobe input. Developer: The limitation is some sort of standard support from the 3D applications. If they want to work with Adobe, we'll work with them.... User: Is there anyone at Adobe in particular that would be the person to get in contact with? If I could get a Alias or Discreet rep interested, who would I point them to? Developer: Probably me, and I'll forward them to marketing to see if they're really interested. In the meantime we can start discussing what's needed in an API to do this. (I would have replied that you don't need Linux to use the GIMP, but you need to register, and I'd feel silly doing that as I am not using PS myself.) -- branko collin collin@xxxxxxxxx