Its still pretty bleeding edge. You'll need to get bleeding edge perl modules (which ones are documented in the gimp-perl cvs) Some stuff works, some doesn't. Its not looking likely I'll get a chance to do bring everything up to date from the plug-in side, and numerous Gtk problems still exist. Complaining about individual plug-ins probably won't help at this point... I really wouldn't recommend it for anyone not developing just yet, but you're always welcome to try. Happy GIMPing, Seth <snip on the versioning squabbling> > is it worth building the gimp-perl module from cvs yet? > > carol __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com