on IRC Sven said i really should put these changes to the list for discussion I will try and make keep this simple but I have a few loosely related changes all of which are against gimp/app/gui/image-menu.c The patch is here http://bugzilla.gnome.org/showattachment.cgi?attach_id=17739 Attached to this bug report http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92468 The patch itself is simple, but I expect it will be controversial. Firstly (and most likely to be incredibly unpopular) I want to change Redo Control+R to Redo Control+Shift+Z Reasons: Ctrl+R is not unreasonable, as R is the first letter of Redo (in English at least) and it probably comes from something older than me that I am unaware of but very few other applictions use it, which makes it inconsistant and harder for most people to learn. I will qualify what I mean when I say very few: Microsoft Windows doesnt use Ctrl+R, usually it uses Ctrl+Y the twisted logic being that Y comes before Z and Z is used for Undo. (Mozilla uses Ctrl+Y for Redo as well). Apple OS X uses AppleKey/"CommandKey" + Shift + Z, older versions may have used "CommandKey" + Y but I cannot remember clearly. The logic is to use a Shifted version of a keybinding for closely related actions across the whole desktop which makes it slightly easier to guess unknown keybindings (and means you can use Ctrl+Y for something else). Gnome uses* Ctrl+Shift+Z for Redo. [* most Gnome apps do already or will follow the Gnome Human Interface Guidelines. This guideline does makes sense, they are just following Apples logic] KDE also uses Ctrl+Shift+Z http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/menus/edit.html (These are based on a google search:) Abode Photoshop also seems to use Ctrl+Shift+Z for Redo Jasc Paint Shop Pro is a bit strange and uses Ctrl+Alt+Z, because Ctrl+Shift+Z is already taken by Undo History (using Ctrl+Alt+Z for Undo in Gimp wouldn't be a terrible idea, but i know using Alt cause some minor problems in places). So I have made it pretty clear that many many people would be more comfortable with having Ctrl+Shift+Z but I have not forgotten about those of you who have been using the Gimp for a very long time. One option is to reassig the keybinding manually. There also already exists a Menu Configuration File for Photoshop users, I propose a Menu Configuration for users who like the current menu configuration and dont want things changed (there was a bug report about being allowed to change and reset the menurc from the preferences dialog but i am not sure of its current state). I also want Ctrl+R for a different keybinding. This message is getting really long so I will explain the rest of the patch in other emails, please hold off critiquing the rest of the patch for a while so that I have a chance to _fully_ explain my reasoning. I have put a lot of time and thought into this, but I am not an expert I just know what I like and have a reasonably good understanding of why so please consider your criticism carefully. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ PS Please leave my address in the CC line, I am subscribed to the list digest and it will take me a while to give carefully considered responses to any questions.
