I apologize for this question The Gimp 1.2 I have is 2113804 bytes, it came with the MDK 9 distro The Gimp 1.3.11 was 3597994 bytes, officially released 1.3.11 A recent Gimp 1.3.12 was 38551604 from one of the CVS repositories Why are the binaries of the 1.3 series 15 times the size of 1.2 ? TIA Owen