I did not receive any messages from it for a while, and it seems that http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/ is not responding to HTTP requests. Is everything OK there at XCF? Regards, Shlomi Fish ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish shlomif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: shlomif@xxxxxxxxxx A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly.