Hello, Being a web-developer, I recently followed most of the discussion about the new Gimp.org-website. So I also read some people mentioned PHP's spaghetti-like nature. However, I also like to state that using PHP will enable a lot more programmers to be able to contribute. Perhaps their should be more quality-control, but I definitely think we should go for PHP (and MySQL). There are really much applications available for PHP (and MySQL), most of the websites are moving from Perl to PHP. That should have a reason, don't you think ?!? Just see the usage-charts at php.net/usage.php Enough PHP-advocacy for now: today I found the updated PHP-HOWTO by the LDP (linuxdoc.org). It interestingly had a paragraph about "PHP Template Engines". See the quote below: <quote> - "Smarty Template Engine": is a template engine for PHP. One of the unique aspects about Smarty that sets it apart from other templating solutions is that it compiles the templates into native PHP scripts upon the first invocation. After that, it merely executes the compiled PHP scripts. Therefore, there is no costly template file parsing for each request. See Smarty QuickStart and docs about Smarty are at http://www.phpinsider.com/php/code/Smarty/docs. Get if from http://www.phpinsider.com/php/code/Smarty - "Fast Template": http://curtisonline.net/theme/phpfast-templates-HOWTO.html or http://www.thewebmasters.net/ - "VH Layout": http://www.vhconsultants.com and also read http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/zhang19990610.php3 </quote> If some people are concerned about PHP and spaghetti, then please consider using one of these engines on the server. This will enable the large PHP-community to contribute to Gimp.org and will hopefully prevent those Italian food from appearing throughout the code. It will also make updating the BTW, for updating the site we could also consider using some kind of a Content Management System (CMS). There are lots of them available and they make updating the site less painless and more enjoyable... Greetings, Martijn Weisbeek operator of Dutch PHP-community (http://internet.clubs.nl/php) personal webpage: http://weisbeek.cjb.net