On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:37:11PM +0900, timecop@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > On the side note, one thing that could use serious serious improvement is > the preferences dialog. I think, the "Tree" structure of organizing > preferences is truly confusing. Reserve tree structures for directory > lists and things like that. Someone using the Gimp for the first time > would expect preferences dialog to look something similar to a tabbed > notebook where each setting is grouped by section, which occupies one tab They would expect that only if they've used Microsoft Windows 95 through to somewhere in the late 1990s. The mechanism used in Gimp is most widely considered to be far superior for potentially complex preferences lists. Tabbed notebooks are rarely the Right Thing unless you have only three or four clearly differentiated item groups. We've got lots more. It's also funny how people add 12 more tabs, and don't consider a re-design -- look at Visual Studio (at least circa 1998) for such nonsense. If you're claiming to be teaching _us_ about GUI design you should know this stuff. This is rapidly getting off topic, and concentrating on your specific wants, rather than general usability everyone will agree on (for example, ESC = Cancel seems pretty reasonable to me) Nick.