>> There has to be something to explain the installation stating that you need >> 170Meg of disk space which is about twice the space needed for the GIMP. >170 = 2 * 17? The factor for a standard gimp (current cvs) is 10, not 2! Umm... even Gimp's source is below 50 MB (below 8 Mb compressed). Maybe they implement FS RAID, so you never lost data. Hehehe. Now, seriously, IIRC the 170 MB tarball is the complete install, both for RPM and Deb based systems. I dunno how you can install in other systems (or overriding the package system, a tactic I use sometimes). A single system tarball should be 85 MB, or at least that was the file size I remember. I wonder why do not do a data pack and a small installer for the package system (including "no pgk system"). I do not have the space to install that monster... nor the money to pay the phone. So it will have to wait until a mag puts it the CD or I visit a place with a fat pipe. GSR