Just to clarify, in my prev msg when refering to the selectors I was refering to the pattern/gradient/brush one, not the [fore|back]ground color one :) Regards, alan -- Arcterex -=|=- arcterex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -=|=- http://arcterex.ufies.org '... I was worried they were going to say "you don't have enough LSD in your system to do UNIX programming."' -- Paul Tomblin in a.s.r