From: "Michael J. Hammel" <mjhammel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:31:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Gimp Developer List) Thus spoke Kelly Lynn Martin > I agree entirely. It is my considered position that the first thing > we should with 1.3 is remove all, or virtually all, of the plug-ins > from the standard distribution. Moving them to the gimp-plug-in > repository on sourceforge seems practical. All we need to do is Agreed, with a modification: a review of plug-ins should be done so that a set of very useful ones could be left with the core. This would permit a useful, small distribution for *nix distributors to include without having to concern themselves about the added extras on sourceforge. It would also allow the core developers to concentrate on architectural issues and let another group of plug-in developers grow (over time) to handle the extras. I agree. I think that the right question is whether a typical end user would consider something to be core functionality vs. an addon. It doesn't really matter how it's implemented; if an end user expects it as a fundamental part of the application, it's core functionality. That doesn't mean that the development of the core plugins has to be centralized; in our case (presuming that printing is considered core functionality) I don't see any harm in our working on our development series, and releasing stable code to the Gimp core. That's essentially what we're doing right now; I intend 3.0.5 as the version to get into 1.2, unless we have bugs that are deemed high enough priority, but 3.1 is under active development. The more interesting question from our standpoint is what happens when Gimp 1.3 gets underway. My intent is to release versions off the 3.1 development tree (or whatever the latest version that at least passes the paper bag test) into the Gimp development, and then sync up our latest stable release when Gimp 1.4 or 2.0 gets close to release. And yes, I agree with Michael also that 2002 is not a reasonable target for the next stable release of the Gimp. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton