Hi, > BTW, now that I changed it back (and set the "allow_shrink" hint to FALSE) > how does it look? At least enlightenment now omits the border and shows > only a title. (I didn't configure anything on the WM side) Sawmill honors the WM hint (it did honor it before the changes) and uses the decorations for a transient window. Icewm seems to ignore it and adds normal decorations. I think we can declare WM´s that don´t follow the hints as buggy. There´s no need to change anything on our side. Salut, Sven