Review and better --> Clean up and Re: Help System (fwd)

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Hello Folks 

I got some feedback about the "Clean up" nearly all of them well written
and with good points. I there for rewrote the  main "todo" list and post
it again for confirmation/evaluation.

Here is my list of minor things to clean up and make better (Without
breaking the freeze). First the list and then the discussion below it.


  * Use PS mod and extend it to fit Gimp specific functions.

  * Don't install any scripts by default (This means all scripts even
    Script-Fu scripts)
	* Make a script pkg with Script-Fu, Perl-Fu and Py-Fu scripts
	* Keep both Perl and Python as a part of std Gimp
        * Exception install copy-visible --> <image>/copy/
                   install drop-shadow --> <image>/filter/render/shadow
		   install perspective-shadow -->  \
					<image>/filter/render/shadow
	  Those script must me "UNDO AWARE" i.e using
          gimp-undo-push-group-[start,stop]
	  
  * The Script Pack
	* Make all small script "UNDO ENABLED"
		* Install those script in a sensible location
		  not just under a general Script entry
		*Scripts under Xtns naturally don't need to be
		 "undo aware"!
	* All Script in Xtns should be under the a top Script entry. Under
	  the script entry the scripts has to be sorted/grouped in a
     	  sensible way.
	* All Script in the <image> menu that aren't "UNDO ENABLED"
	  should be under a top Script entry. Under the script entry the
          scripts has to be sorted/grouped in a sensible way.
	* Make the "Script Pack" install script control your
	  config and only install scripts that works
	* Make it possible to e.g only install Perl-Script or e.g
	  logo-scripts etc.
	* The "Script Pack" install script should preferably be a shell
	  script avalible from the Xtns menu. When you access it a xterm
	  will popup with some "menus" where you can choose your action.

	          
  * Move/transform selections
	* Change move selection to actually move the selection
	  (i.e make Gimp PS compatible)
	* Make Move <Alt> behave as old Gimp move 
	* Postpone trans selections to next Gimp rel (i.e 1.3)

  * Make all numeric input fields spin-button aware
	(Well Mitch wanted to do the job ;-)

  * Make the Info window auto aware (i.e switch to the active image)
	* If possible add status bar and measure info to Info Window

  * Make the Undo history window auto aware

  * Make the Navigation window auto aware

  * Reconstruct the menu structure 

	Core gimp funcs 

	  	Image menu
	
 	   	<image>/Image/-Mode-----|
			   |		RGB
			   |    	Grayscale
			   |    	Indexed
			   |		-------
			   |    	Compose
			   |    	Decompose
                           |
			 Color--|
			   |	ColorBalance
			   |	Hue-Saturation
			   |	Brightness-Contrast
			   |	Threshold
			   |	Levels
			   |	Curves
			   |	------
			   |	Desaturate
			   |	Posterize
			   |	Invert
			   |	------
			   |	Auto ----------|
			   |	------         Equalize
               		   |	Colormap Rota  Auto-Stretch Contrast
			   |	Filter Pack    Auto-Stretch HSV		
	                   |	               Color Enhance
			   |
			Alpha (the same)	
     	                   | 
     			Transform--|
			   |	   Offset
			   |	   (Remove layer)
			   |	   Auto-crop	
  			   |	   Guillotine
                           |       Image -- Rotate (270/90)
			   |	   Rotate (no layer option)
                           |       Zealous Crop
			   |
			-------
			Canvas Size 
			Scale Image 
			Duplicate
			-------
			Histogram
			Save palette

		Edit Menu
		<image>/Edit/---|
				Undo
				Redo
				----
				Cut
				Copy
				Paste
				Paste into  
				Paste as new
				Buffer----------|		
				-----		Cut Named
				Clear		Copy Named
				Fill		Paste Named	
				Stroke
				-----
				Copy Visible

		Layer Menu (Image and dialog)
		<image/Dialogs>--|
				Layers & Channels
				Stack--
				Layer--Rotate (270/90)
				Rotate (no image option)
				-----
				Same as before
				-----
				Semi-Flatten


		Filter Menu
		<image>Filter/--|
				Repeat last
				Re-show last
				Filter all layers
				------------
				Animation (The same except Filter all ...)
				Artistic--------|
				|		Apply Canvas
				|		Cubism
				|		GimpPressionist
				|		Mosaic
				|		Oilify
				|	
				Blur (the same)
				Colors----------|
				|		Map-----|
				|		|	Adjust Fgrd-Bkgrd
				|		|	Alien Map[ 2]
				|		|	Color Exchange
				|		|	Color Mapping
				|		|	Gradient Map
				|		|	Sample Colorize
				|		|
				|		Border Average
				|		Colorify
				|		Hot
				|		Max RGB
				|		SmoothPalette			
				|		Value Invert
				|
				Combine (the same)
				Distort (the same but add Newsprint)
				Edge-Detect (the same)
				Enhance (the same)
				Generic (the same)
				Map (the same but add LIC and Warp)
				Misc (the same)
				Noise---|
				|	Hurl
				|	Noisify
				|	Pick
				|	Scatter HSV
				|	Slur
				|	Spread
				|
				Render--|
				|	Pattern-|
				|	|	CML
				|	|	Checkerboard
				|	|	Diffraction
				|	|	Fractal Expl
				|	|	Grid
				|	|	Maze
				|	|	Qbist
				|	|	Sinus
				|	|
				|	Nature--|
				|	|	Flame
				|	|	IFS Compose
				|	|
				|	Clouds-|
				|	|	Plasma
				|	|	Solid Noise
				|	|
				|	Shadow--|
				|	|	See above (script)
				|	Dyntext
				|	Gfig
				|	Jigsaw
				|	SphereDesigner
				Toys (the same ;-)
			
				
		File Menu Image
		<image>/File
		Remove Preference

		File Menu Toolbox
		<toolbox>/File/-|
				New
				Open
				----
				Acquire (We have to tell SANE)	
				----
				Preferences
				----
				Dialogs
				-----
				Doc Hist
				----
				Quit
		Xtns Menu

		<toolbox>/Xtns--|
				Module Browser
				DB Explorer
				Plugin Details

		Help Menu
		<toolbox>/Help--|
				Help
				Context Help (Shift-F1)
				Tip of the day
				About
				
		Select Menu
		<image>/select
		(the same)
		
		AnimFrames
		<image>/AnimFrames
		(the same)		

		View Meny
		<image>/View
		The same but add Undo History. If/When Nav, Info and Undo
		History is "auto aware" move them to the dialog menu.



I will skip the discussion this time just look into my old mail. I will
however comment on the changes in the "Suggestion".

Marcs remark about the script location and "undo aware" makes total sense.
So I adopted his view and changed it. 

However I'm not after a "on the fly loader". I just want a simple (i.e not
load Gimp with bugs) way of handling/install all the scripts. Furthermore
most users don't want all scripts. Most of the time you only want a
subset. 

The "Script Pack" script will simply enable you to choose scripts which
will be installed under your .gimp directory if they are supported by your
Gimp configuration. This will solve the Perl thing once and for all and
ever body will be happy ;-). The script can even tell you that you don't
have e.g Perl-XFY installed and there for you will not be able to install
XXX script.

Simon's/Austin's remarks about the menus was also really good and I
adopted all of them except the Toy thing ;-). The Undo History is moved to
the view menu which is wise until it's "auto aware" which I BTW think is
mandatory!

Simons suggestion to merge the "File and <image>/File" menu is really nice
but I suggest that we leave it to the next release of Gimp.

I dunno about the possibility to attach a plugin to the "L&C" dialog but at
least the plugin can be attached to the Layer menu.

About implementing the stuff? Well I'm willing to do the "Menu update".
The "Script Pack" thing I think we should make a team out of. We need some
discussion how to make it work good and to make it user friendly.  

Mitch is in the spin button department so that will not be a problem. I
have also heard that Sven is really good on modkeys. Sorry to say but
the the "Nav, Window and Undo" stuff is out of my jurisdiction, so some
one else has to take that.


Cheers Olof
				
PS: Sven I was a bit out in the blue when I talk about the mag tool. But
maybe we can make it possible to max zoom if you press <Ctrl>.




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