http://www.excite.co.uk/entertainment/news_story/technology/tech0.txt Somebody had the "good idea" to name another program Gimp, Ginger Interactive Media Player. I have the file, just in case it is changed (I found it that way, the URL is constant, but the contents are not). Somebody should tell them, or at least, make sure that they will not try to sue anybody (they are the second, and IMO they are the "offenders"). GSR