Hi, I hope people don't think it's out of place for me to make this suggestion. If so, I guess ye'll just ignore it anyway... I think it might be useful for gegl, as well as for the GIMP, to have a clear roadmap of things that absolutely, positively must get done before the GIMP can use gegl. I don't really know what those things are, but I imagine that finishing GeglImage is one, although that goal is probably too vague to be a proper milestone. It would be interesting to have a number of measurable milestones, and to start releasing gegl pretty soon. I suppose that one of the things that will be needed when releases start will be documentation on the philosophy and usage of the library. What do ye think? Do ye feel that gegl is small enough not to have any releases until it's actually at a stage where twe can use it? In any case, measuring what's required before we can use it is, I think, worthwhile. Cheers, and a good weekend to all, Dave. -- David Neary, E-Mail: dneary@xxxxxxx Tél: 04 72 33 95 35 Port: 06 03 98 39 80