Jonathan By off the shelf, I mean not creating a new target description file. Something which I'm not at all experienced in (optimizations are my thing so I'm an amateur at creating a cross-compiler.) I can't seem to figure out what the binutils or the gcc target is for Thumb-2. If you know, please let me know. I suspect that is an obsolete target that no longer exists for the latest binutils and GCC 12. Thanks, Gary ________________________________ From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 11:31 PM To: Gary Oblock <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Gary Oblock via Gcc-help <gcc-help@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Anybody ever got an ARM Thumb-2 cross compiler to work? [EXTERNAL EMAIL NOTICE: This email originated from an external sender. Please be mindful of safe email handling and proprietary information protection practices.] On Thu, 16 Jun 2022, 00:18 Gary Oblock via Gcc-help, <gcc-help@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gcc-help@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: The subject line says it all... I'm beginning to think off the shelf gcc cross compilers are impossible to create because of binutils. Why? What do you mean by "off the shelf"? At other companies we for the most part created custom assemblers, loaders and libraries from scratch when we built a gcc cross compiler. Why can't you just build a cross binutils too?