On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 11:42:48AM -0500, John Ratliff wrote: > I don't see anywhere that I'm taking the address of A or B. I don't see why > they should need storage space here. Am I doing something wrong in my > program? After reading Ryan's post, I looked at the (draft) standard. It says: 4 If a static data member is of const integral or const enumeration type, its declaration in the class definition can specify a constant- initializer which shall be an integral constant expression (_expr.const_). In that case, the member can appear in integral con- stant expressions within its scope. The member shall still be defined in a namespace scope if it is used in the program and the namespace scope definition shall not contain an initializer. If I understand this correctly, even const static members need to have a definition somewhere. Maybe this is "needed" so that you may always take the address of such const static members. So the compiler is free to use the constant as if they were variables, if it needs to. Your code compiles OK if the line int offset = (redundant ? B : A); is replaced by if(redundant) offset = B; else offset = A; I don't know why, but it does work here. So you need to define those constants somewhere, but the compiler may use the initializer in the class scope, if it is able to do so. For some reason, GCC couldn't use the initializer in the first case, so it is using the address of the constants. Go figure. -- Alex J. Dam