On the printf("hello\n\n") programs that were winding up a 471K executable modules-- it is a distribution problem (or my installations although no errors were indicated). I Live-CD'd another distro and the programs are 11K so I'll take it up with the distro folks Sorry for the inconvenience. Jay Nickson ============================================= James Nickson jaynicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 19 O.Cheq.Nk.Rd., Wellfleet, MA 508.349.2422