On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 03:45:00AM +1100, Tyler Retzlaff wrote: > My latest copy of the standard is out of date, but shouldn't there be > something similar to typedef basic_ofstream<char> ofstream; live in > fstream? I think it is not required to be defined right in there but rather that when you #include <fstream> that it is required to be pulled in and to be defined after the #include line. When you include fstream, fstream includes istream, which in turn includes iosfwd, where you'd find: typedef basic_ofstream<char> ofstream; ///< @isiosfwd HTH -- Claudio Bley ASCII ribbon campaign (") Debian GNU/Linux user - against HTML email X http://www.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bley/ & vCards / \