hi, I learned c mostly out of kernigan and ritchie. but almost any example code from it seems to be a DON'T. when I for example want to write a commando interface, you guys as well as some other lists would probably say 'oh no, don't use getchar() use xxx instead it's more safe'. what I want to find is a book/site that will issue the common examples in a secure and effective version. explaining why to use some function and why to avoid others. do you happen to know such a book/site? gruss /Christian mailto:caefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- I propose that the following character sequence for joke markers: :-) 19-Sep-82 11:44 Scott E Fahlman