On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:15:48AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 08:00:27AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 03:57:23PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote: > > > I probably misunderstood how -n nr_ops vs --duration=30 interact; > > > I expected it to run until either were exhausted, not for duration > > > to override nr_ops as implied by this: > > > > There are (at least) two ways that a soak duration is being used > > today; one is where someone wants to run a very long soak for hours > > and where if you go long by an hour or two it's no big deals. The > > other is where you are specifying a soak duration as part of a smoke > > test (using the smoketest group), where you might be hoping to keep > > the overall run time to 15-20 minutes and so you set SOAK_DURATION to > > 3m. > > check-parallel on my 64p machine runs the full auto group test in > under 10 minutes. > > i.e. if you have a typical modern server (64-128p, 256GB RAM and a > couple of NVMe SSDs), then check-parallel allows a full test run in > the same time that './check -g smoketest' will run.... > > > (This was based on some research that Darrick did which showed that > > running the original 5 tests in the smoketest group gave you most of > > the code coverage of running all of the quick group, which had > > ballooned from 15 minutes many years ago to an hour or more. I just > > noticed that we've since added two more tests to the smoketest group; > > it might be worth checking whether those two new tests addded to thhe > > smoketest groups significantly improves code coverage or not. It > > would be unfortunate if the runtime bloat that happened to the quick > > group also happens to the smoketest group...) > > Yes, and I've previously made the point about how check-parallel > changes the way we should be looking at dev-test cycles. We no > longer have to care that auto group testing takes 4 hours to run and > have to work around that with things like smoketest groups. If you > can run the whole auto test group in 10-15 minutes, then we don't > need "quick", "smoketest", etc to reduce dev-test cycle time > anymore... > > > The bottom line is in addition to trying to design semantics for users > > who might be at either end of the CPU count spectrum, we should also > > consider that SOAK_DURATION could be set for values ranging from > > minutes to hours. > > I don't see much point in testing for hours with check-parallel. The > whole point of it is to enable iteration across the entire fs test > matrix as fast as possible. I do -- running all the soak tests in parallel on a (probably old lower spec) machine. Parallelism is all right for a lot of things. --D > If you want to do long running soak tests, then keep using check for > that. If you want to run the auto group test across 100 different > mkfs option combinations, then that is where check-parallel comes in > - it'll take a few hours to do this instead of a week. > > -Dave. > -- > Dave Chinner > david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >