On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 07:49:29AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: > [+fsdevel] > > > > > I swear I'll send all these some day, if I ever get caught up... > > Delegating LTS maintenance is a big help, but as it is I still can't > > stay abreast of all the mainline patchsets /and/ send my own stuff. :( > > I have to repeat what I said in LSFMM about the LTP project and > what fstests could be like. > > Companies put dedicated engineers to work as proactive LTP > maintainers. There is absolutely no reason that companies won't > do the same for fstests. > > If only every large corp. that employs >10 fs developers will assign > a halftime engineer for fstests maintenance, their fs developer's > work would become so much more productive and their fs product > will become more reliable. > > I think the fact that this is not happening is a failure on our part to > communicate that to our managers. I'd enjoy that too; I'll bring it up the next time they start asking about budgeting here (which means in 2 weeks). > From my experience, if you had sent stuff like your fstests cleanups > to the LTP maintainers and ask for their help to land it, they would > thank you for the work you did and take care of all the testing > on all platforms and fixing all the code style and framework issues. Though to be fair -- a lot of the fstests changes backing up in djwong-dev exist to enable testing of the online fsck feature. This whole year I've deprioritized sending any of those patches to concentrate on writing the design documentation for online fsck[1]. Now that I've submitted *that*, I'm hoping to start code review once I convince a few people to grok the design doc. So perhaps next week I'll resume the patchbombing that I've become infamous for doing. In the mean time, no objections to merging /this/ series. The group labelling is a little odd and I think that should be separate fix from adding _require_freeze), but if zorro's ok with its present form then so be it. --D [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/165456652256.167418.912764930038710353.stgit@magnolia/ > LTP maintainers constantly work on improving the framework and > providing more features to test writers as well as on converting old > tests to use new infrastructure. > > Stuff like Dave's work on sorting up the cleanup mess or the groups > cleanup and groups speedup - all of those do not have to add load > to busy maintainers - life can be different! > > Taking responsibility away from developers to deliver their own tests > is a slippery slope, but getting help and working together is essential > for offloading work from busy maintainers. > > Thanks, > Amir.
