Sorry for my misconfigured mail software and all new-lines vanished in the previous mail. I would like to explain it in detail. What I mean is, the substitution table I have given IS ALREADY minimal and basic--SimSun to Chinese is like Times New Roman to English. More than 90% of the Chinese users will use SimSun or STSong as their default serif font, so IT IS COMMON ENOUGH, Just like more than 90% of the English users will choose Arial or Helvetica as their sans-serif font. But I think a easy-to-use tool to generate font substitution (and also font preferences) is necessary too. So other fonts (e.g. Wei-style or Li-style, they are NOT MINIMAL) substitution rules can be applied by user. Thanks all the same even if you have different opinions. ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:14:35 +0900 > Subject: Re: Request for implementing font substitution for CJK fonts > From: akira@xxxxxxxxx > To: m13253@xxxxxxxxxxx > CC: fontconfig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > First of all, my opinion on this kind of question/suggestion is, to > let you encourage to work together with the font upstream or the > distros if you want the complete list of the fallback. this is because > it's quite hard to settle all of requirements and preferences. IMHO > having minimal amount of the rules in fontconfig would be sufficient. > we could have an example in fontconfig how to write the rule of the > fallback though, it's not the things that mean our recommendation > about the order of the fonts. > Aside from that, having the rules in fontconfig for the fonts may not > installed on the system more or less affects its performance and > footprint. > > Well, that may be nice if we can provide a tool to generate the kind > of the rules instead as I posted here some while ago. dunno. > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, BlissSam <m13253@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello fontconfig, I am a Simplified Chinese user, and I want font > > substitution for CJK fonts to be implemented. > > > > Most Chinese fonts are mainly divided into four styles: > > 1. Song (Pronounced `soon'), serif, also called `Ming' in Taiwan and Hong > > Kong, `Mincho' in Japan, `Batang' in Korea) > > 2. Hei, sans-serif, also called `Meiryo' in Japan, `Dotum' in Korea > > 3. Kai, brush handwriting style, likely to be serif > > 4. FangSong, likely to be sans-serif > > 5. Others such as Li, Wei, etc, is not discussed here. > > > > I have sorted these fonts according to my preference, however, I do not know > > a lot about what fonts users in TW, HK, JP, or KR prefer. > > > > Hei: > > WenQuanYi Micro Hei (Free font) > > WenQuanYi Zen Hei (Free font) > > Hiragino Sans GB (Used in OS X Lion as default) > > Microsoft Yahei (Used in Windows Vista and above as default) > > STHeiTi (Used in iOS as default, in OS X and in Windows) > > SimHei (Used in Windows) > > Droid Sans Fallback (Used in Android as default) > > > > Song: > > STSong (Used in OS X and in Windows) > > SimSun (Used in Windows) > > AR PL UMing CN (Free font, this is the worst choice because Arphic's CN > > fonts are in TW style although it is marked `CN') > > > > Kai: > > STKaiti (Used in OS X and in Windows) > > KaiTi (Used in Windows Vista and above) > > KaiTi_GB2312 (Used in Windows XP and below) > > AR PL UKai CN (Free font) > > > > FangSong: > > STFangsong (Used in OS X and in Windows) > > FangSong (Used in Windows Vista and above) > > FangSong_GB2312 (Used in Windows XP and below) > > > > What I want to be implemented is, when one of the fonts is missing, > > fontconfig will search for others for substitution. > > For example, if a document requires SimHei which is not installed currently, > > fontconfig may use WenQuanYi Micro Hei instead. And if Micro Hei is missing > > either, Zen Hei will be used. > > > > Sincerely yours. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fontconfig mailing list > > Fontconfig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/fontconfig > > > > > > -- > Akira TAGOH _______________________________________________ Fontconfig mailing list Fontconfig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/fontconfig
