>>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Lam <plam@xxxxxxx> writes: Patrick> Doesn't `fc-list : file family' do what you want? Hmm. Missed that. But that doesn't work in the case where the directory in question isn't currently in the list of <dir/>s. I have several that are not listed in the fonts.conf files except when I need said family for something specific. (I especially find that type1 fonts -- as opposed to otf (sfnt/cff) and ttf (sfnt/glyf) fonts -- are more bothersome than helpful when left in full time.) Patrick> The fonts.cache-2 file doesn't quite contain all of the Patrick> information in the fonts.cache-1 file (I don't think I have Patrick> file times), but I could generate most of the information Patrick> there, if you think it would be useful. I don't see a filetime in the cache-1 files. Unless the 2nd column is atime? I have this in mine: "filename" 0 "fontname" where fontname is: basename:style:slant:weight:width:foundry:index:outline:scalable:charset:lang:fontversion:capability:fontformat and am currently running w/ noatime. -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. <cloos@xxxxxxxxxxx>