hi there, I've hit on a nasty problem with fontconfig within the MacOS X port of LilyPond. This program is delivered as a app-bundle, and can be installed by ordinary users, simply by drag & dropping the bundle somewhere. The problem is that MacOS ships with a bunch of fonts in /System/Library/Fonts. Whenever our application starts it scans this directory. This takes several minutes due to the oriental fonts. fc-cache cannot cache this directory, since it is not writable by ordinary users. I hope I'm missing an obvious solution, but a cursory glace at the FC sources indicate that cache files are always written in the font directory itself. Of course, I can kludge around this, - mirror /System/Library/Fonts with symlinks in a writable directory (I will probably use this kludge.) - ask the user for their password, and run fc-cache with sudo - write an installer that runs fc-cache. however, none of these strike me as elegant. It would be better if the cache could be stored separately from the directory, under control of the process-owner. This also makes more sense if -for some reason- applications decide to add system-wide read-only font directories that are normally not part of a fontconfig installation (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1 springs to mind). -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - hanwen@xxxxxxxxx - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen