I'm running Debian unstable but I recently upgraded to XFree86 4.3.0, using bind mounting to keep it separate from 4.2.1 which is still installed "in the background". My problem is that in XFree86, fc-cache is ignoring bitmap fonts ie everything in 75dpi and misc etc. The fonts are still working in non-fontconfig/xft apps and xfontsel. I've tried both the Debian fontconfig 2.2.0-2 and the version that comes with X. If I switch back to XFree86 4.2.1 they're available again, but I haven't tried fc-cache -v; I don't want to in case it wipes out the working fonts.cache-1 files and I have no way at all of getting back the use of LucidaTypewriter in gnome-terminal. Then again I'm getting so used to (Andale) Mono now, that LucidaTypewriter looks weird in gvim! The output of fc-cache -v -f is: fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1": caching, 29 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts": caching, 0 fonts, 4 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype": caching, 30 fonts, 1 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/xfree86-nonfree": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/type1": caching, 0 fonts, 2 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/type1/xfree86-nonfree": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts": caching, 35 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/afms": caching, 0 fonts, 1 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/afms/adobe": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/override": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/root/.fonts": no such directory, skipping fc-cache: "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/": caching, 30 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: succeeded What's the difference between "skipping" and "caching" BTW? -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk