Re: System upgrades. Where is the / filesystem?

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On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 11:47 AM John Pilkington <johnpilk222@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 01/05/2024 15:51, Felix Miata wrote:
> John Pilkington composed on 2024-05-01 09:31 (UTC+0100):
>
>> I'm not aware of any snapshots, and suspect that Felix has a quicker way
>> of finding the relevant 'freespace' than waiting for dnf's version to
>> appear.  Perhaps it's shown during the 'rpm --force' installs?  I have
>> around 3400 packages.
>
> Math is required. Unless your packages cache is elsewhere than on an extX /
> filesystem, do:
>
>       df /
>
> Did it yet increase by as much as the amount of additional freespace required that
> dnf system-upgrade first reported? If no, upgrade and remove another large rpm
> from the filesystem, and check again. Repeat until the number has become large
> enough. This only works as intended with a real remove, not with some file manager
> that moves to trash instead of actually removing. I use only mc or fcl or various
> cmdline utils for file management, never Dolphin or Thunar or any other GUI file
> manager.
>
> Also, if you added kernel* to dnf.conf skip list, you can remove it from the
> cache. DNF pretends everything in the skip list does not exist. The 5 raw 6.8.7 or
> 6.8.5 rpms are well upwards of 100MB. When time comes that upgrade has otherwise
> completed, kernel* must be removed from the skip list to allow dnf to upgrade to
> the current kernel.

Thank you for this, and for earlier posts that I found elsewhere.  The
system is now updated to f40 and seems to be running well.  I didn't
have to use rpm installs from the cache in /var/lib/dnf/system-update.

I think the effective change was to add

"exclude kernel* linux-firmware* java*  libreoffice* "

to /etc/dnf/dnf.conf, before repeating everything from the preliminary

"sudo dnf upgrade--refresh" and applying "--allowerasing --skip-broken"
in the download.

I suppose a "sudo dnf clean all" had helped too: 88 files removed.
After the download KDiskFree reported 3.9 GB free in /, and dnf said
that was the total package size.  "df / " said 4093160 blocks.  After
the reboot I removed the excludes, ran dnf upgrade again, and installed
locally built MythTV rpms.

That's an account of what I did.  I'm afraid it comes with no guarantees.

For completeness, there are several post-upgrade tasks you could perform to ensure the system is tidy. See <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/#sect-optional-post-upgrade-tasks>.

Jeff
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