On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 14:28 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > James Laska wrote: > > Did you upgrade your system from F14? If so, depending on when you > > upgraded, you may be seeing > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699198 > > > > The current proposed workaround is to run: > > $ systemctl enable rsyslog.service > > According to the bug this is being ignored as a vital issue as it does > not "clearly hit any release criteria". Ignored is not the correct term. It was requested as a nice-to-have for F15 ... and it fell off the maintainers radar. Also, it seems I forgot to keep nagging them about it. We'll likely have this in 'updates' in time, and disaster will be averted. > In this case, I think, the > release criteria needs to be defined to state clearly that logging needs > to function properly. If anaconda were to suddenly stop logging install > events I'm sure there would be 3 or 4 people immediately on the job of > fixing the problem. Probably, hard to say in the world of hypotheticals. I don't think anything sinister is happening here ... this just fell off peoples radars. Thank you for raising this issue. > The bug also mentions the workaround will be "clearly documented". Where > will that be? From my browsing of the users list many people use > preupgrade so many people will not know their logging has ceased to > function properly unless a zero-day (or close) fix is released. As usual, that documentation would occur on the CommonBugs page (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F15_bugs). We typically don't start processing those until after the release has been blessed. That page has instructions in the event anyone wants to add their own content. > This brings me to my next rant topic: > Is preupgrade considered an 'official' method of upgrading between > releases? If not, then preupgrade should be removed from the repos. If > so, then the release criteria is in dire need of fixing. Then there are > those that use the DVD to upgrade. I assume they will be broken as well. No drastic action needed ... preupgrade has been, and continues to be, documented as the official upgrade mechanism. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Installation_Guide/ch19s02.html (Yes, this is the F14 link ... I don't have the F15 link handy ... but that doesn't mean it isn't supported in F15). Thanks, James
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